Doesnt Limiting You Upload Seeding Limit Download

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limit upload speed to download speed

Saturday Aug 01, 2009 10:34 pm

It would be nice to set the "Maximum Upload Speed" to the current download speed of each torrent.
I hate it when I am uploading a torrent at fifteen KiB/s just only downloading it at 10 B/s.

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Re: limit upload speed to download speed

Lord's day Aug 02, 2009 7:11 pm

bjlockie wrote:Information technology would be nice to set the "Maximum Upload Speed" to the current download speed of each torrent.
I hate it when I am uploading a torrent at 15 KiB/due south but merely downloading it at 10 B/s.

That could be a useful feature, just sometimes uploading that extra can lead to others uploading more to you, so yous get a faster download speed. And even if that doesn't happen, it means that yous'll have that much less time to have to seed the torrent (assuming that you intend to actually fully seed it). Of course, if you're consistently uploading more than you're downloading, then you'll have a ratio greater than 1 (ridiculously greater than 1 in your instance), then that could definitely be annoying. Of course, if you're non consistently uploading more than yous're downloading, then you're giving up on the opportunity to grab up on your ratio and are going to accept to seed the torrent that much longer.

And so, in whatever case, I call back that information technology could definitely be a useful characteristic, but it should probably be used with caution.

Personally, I've found that while I'll definitely have torrents uploading more than they're downloading, I rarely take torrents which stop downloading with a ratio greater than 1. It does happen upon occasion (more often than not when a torrent is really poorly seeded), but it'south quite rare. And then, I'd rarely - if ever - employ such a feature because information technology would just force me to seed torrents longer.

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Peradventure tie uploading to the share ratio?

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bjlockie wrote:Mayhap tie uploading to the share ratio?

That might actually go against the bittorrent spec since it means that you'd still be trying to download while refusing to upload anything if y'all ever reached a share ratio of ane.0. At the moment, you tin manually limit upload speeds to as little as one KiB/s - which in exercise is pretty much the same as saying 0 - but there'due south no way to ever tell ktorrent to actually not upload anything while downloading. Your outset proffer would likely exist ameliorate.

Of course, the fact that download speeds and upload speeds are constantly changing means that it would actually brand ktorrent exercise a lot of work, constantly changing the upload limit - peculiarly on slow-moving torrents - equally the download limit changes. I don't know how bad it would really exist, but information technology would definitely increase the corporeality of CPU that ktorrent uses. It besides would make your upload speeds very unstable, which would probably make peers upload to you less and ultimately hurt your download speed. A moving average of sorts could be used to polish it all out and reduce the amount of piece of work that ktorrent would have to do, but it still would be more than work for ktorrent and would still brand your upload speed very unstable.

Regardless of any implementation or efficiency issues, even so, I wouldn't use such a feature whatsoever more than than I'd utilise your starting time proffer. I rarely have torrents which end downloading with a ratio greater than 1.0. Even in cases where a torrent's ratio is greater than ane.0 at some point while information technology'southward downloading, information technology nigh always drops below 1.0 before it finishes downloading. In the rare cases that a torrent really finishes downloading with a ratio greater than 1.0, it's an extremely deadening-moving torrent with very few peers - and while I may limit the speed of the torrent'due south upload speed sometimes, I certainly don't want to end it because that risks making it so that the few peers that are there will stop uploading to me.

I tin understand beingness frustrated that a torrent is uploading more than than its downloading, simply that'south usually but a sign that you're not managing to connect to anyone with data you don't accept at the moment, and normally past the time that you've actually managed to go the all of the torrent, your ratio has dropped below 1.0. Are you finding that not to exist the case? Are you actually having torrents end with a ratio greater than i.0 on a regular basis? If not, then I really don't remember that this is something that you really demand to worry near. If you are regularly having torrents finish downloading with ratios greater than 1.0, and then you lot're in a very different state of affairs from me and maybe one of your suggestions would help you (though I still question it since they could make peers less interested in uploading to you). I just oasis't seen it happen plenty to really comport worrying almost. If you are seeing it enough to worry about, I'd propose that for the time being, you simply prepare the upload limits for such torrents. But seriously restricting your upload rate can impairment your download charge per unit, so I'd propose that you definitely give them more than 1 KiB/s - even on downloading torrents that really aren't downloading much of anything - or it'll likely impairment your download speed.

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I don't take torrents finish with a ane.0 share ratio simply I worry that they will if I set up my upload to unlimited.

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bjlockie wrote:I don't have torrents stop with a 1.0 share ratio but I worry that they will if I ready my upload to unlimited.

Well, that'southward quite understandable, but in my experience it rarely happens. And you can limit their upload rate right now - you just have to do information technology manually instead of having a way to tie it to the download rate or ratio. Maybe it would exist beneficial to take such a feature, only I actually don't call up that you lot have to worry about it. If you really start to actually run into it happen to you on a regular footing, and so I'd worry about it. Until then, I'd just let them upload and possibly limit them if they just upload and upload without downloading much.

Personally, I tend to take a harder time getting my upload rate high enough than getting the torrent to download before I striking a ratio of 1.0.

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Yes, i see why... but this is against the bittorrent protocol, i has to be a good suvilian.

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Mon Aug 10, 2009 eleven:13 am

Guys, torrents exist to help people spread files over the world. Don't exist so greedy. Probably you will download file slowly but someone other will go it faster. Just call up what will happen when everyone will accept such characteristic -- everyone will get files on slowest speed! I think kTorrent users volition be banned on many trackers because of this feature.

Actually I have rule for uploading of downloaded anime -- I set group rule to terminate seeding with ratio 3.0. And so, at least three more people volition get this file from me.

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Lain_13 wrote:I think kTorrent users volition be banned on many trackers because of this feature.

This might indeed happen to all of united states of america who use KTorrent. I already know that George is against this.

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Re: limit upload speed to download speed

Wed Sep 30, 2009 iv:38 pm

The whole thought of Torrents is the more than people who seed the file, the more available the file is and the faster others tin download it.

A leeching Torrent user may often choose to exit the swarm as soon equally they have a complete copy of the file they are downloading, freeing up their upstream bandwidth for other uses. If enough leeching users follow this pattern, torrent swarms gradually die out. Also many people are on asymmetrical connections (significant they have a faster download speed than upload speed). It takes many slower seeders or peers sending information upstream to make up one faster download for someone else (maybe yourself).

The _bare minimum_ ratio you should seed to is i.0. Just if you actually want to contribute to the community that yous are reaping the benefits of free fast files from so you lot should seed to one.5 or 2.0. depending on the health of the torrent. That is proper etiquette and anything less is being greedy.

I set my ratio limit to 2.0 for everything and if information technology takes me a couple more days or a month or more to reach it, then so be it. My seeding list is just a little longer sometimes. It is my fashion of helping the free menstruation of data over the Internet.

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